【禁闻】德使馆反驳“上网难”

【新唐人2011年7月16日讯】厦门副市长臧杰斌在厦门市一个会议上发表雷人言论,声称德国老百姓上网非常困难,要经过层层审批,引来民众炮轰。德国驻华大使馆的官方博客也正式进行反驳。曾在德国访问过的学者惊呼厦门副市长在讲天方夜谭。

厦门副市长臧杰斌7月10号在厦门市一个交流会上,声称去年四月份,他曾经到德国进行考察学习,在那儿呆了半个月。他发现德国老百姓上网非常非常困难,要经过层层审批,而且费用很高。而且还说,西方国家对意识形态和新兴媒体的管理,远远超过中国,所以中国还是非常民主的,中国人民应该感到幸福。

厦门副市长臧杰斌:“大家应该感到荣幸,我们现在上互联网很简单,在那边,要经过很多很多审批途径,很多渠道才能上网,而且费用很高。”

德国驻华大使馆7月13号下午通过官方《搜狐》博客,发表文章反驳说,每个去过德国的人都知道,任何人都可以上网,也不需要通过任何官方机构的审批。人们可以随时去众多公共网吧上网,并且不用登记。德国对网路不存在监管,除了极少数内容是被禁止的,比如否定纳粹大屠杀,或者纳粹的标志。但这些禁令是议会通过民主的程序决定,并且在法律中明文写下的。

居住在瑞典的中国流亡作家茉莉多次访问德国。她惊呼厦门副市长在开玩笑。

茉莉:“这个人是不是有毛病啊?这个人一定有毛病。德国是世界言论自由前二十名。中国是一百四十几名。这样的比较,难道德国还会有禁止上网,还要批准吗?很可笑啊。德国只是有儿童色情禁止。其他的政治言论完全没有禁止。中国就是黄色的东西遍地开花。但是真正关心国家关心社会的政治性言论都被禁止。所以这是完全相反的两个极端。”

前北京大学新闻学院副教授焦国标,曾经接受“德国笔会”邀请,去德国访问一年半,他表示,自己当时住在普通居民楼里,上网非常方便,可以看到世界各国的网站,没有任何国家机构进行过滤审查。厦门副市长完全是信口雌黄,愚弄老百姓。

焦国标:“也就是说他不是对实际负责的。他脑子里是没有真实性的。而且根本的问题他就是对民众的尊严,人格的糟蹋、侮辱。就是说,我就是说假话了。你能怎么着啊?你有这个讲台吗?你能纠正我吗?你不能。我爱说什么说什么。”

臧杰斌的讲话视频最初发布在《新浪网》视频频道,播出后迅速引发网友炮轰。一名移居德国柏林的网友表示,德国免费上网满街都是,家庭宽频交钱就给安装,最高100MB频宽,他使用的32MB频宽每月19欧元。

据德国《时代周报》一篇署名唐明灯的文章说,2008年的一项权威统计显示,包括德国在内的互联网最发达的10个国家和地区,固定宽频费用人均占GDP的1%左右。而中国的这一比重为7.4%,属于互联网资费水准最高的国家和地区之一,中国宽频资费绝对值相当于近邻韩国的22倍。
 
上海《东方卫视》新闻栏目主持人语重心长的告诫臧杰斌说:“在信息化的时代撒谎真的是一件非常愚蠢的事情。不负责任的信口胡说是很容易被网民戳穿的。”

新唐人记者秦雪、萧宇采访报导。

German Internet Libel Refuted

Vice Mayor of Xiamen, Zang Jiebin made some ridiculous remarks on a conference,
claiming that to use the Internet, the German have to go through layers of approval.
His remarks drew heavy criticism. German Embassy’s official blog also refuted Zang’s claims.

On a meeting held on July 10 in Xiamen,
Zang claimed that when he was on a 2-week study tour in Germany in April 2010,
he found the German Internet requiring governmental approvals and very costly.
He also said, Western countries’ control of ideology and new media far exceeds that of China. Therefore, Zang claimed that China is very democratic,
and the Chinese people should feel happy.

Zang: It is easy for us to get online. Over there (in Germany),
people need to go through many approvals. It is also very costly.

On July 13, German Embassy published an article on its official Sohu blog,
arguing that it is widely known that anyone can access Internet in Germany,
and there is no governmental approval needed to get Internet.
People can go to public Internet cafes, without registration.
Germany does not monitor the Internet.
Only a small amount of information is prohibited,
such as Holocaust denial and the Nazi symbol.
However, these prohibitions were decided by the Parliament through democratic procedures, and written in the law.

Exiled Chinese writer Mo Li visits Germany often.
She exclaimed that the vice mayor of Xiamen must be joking.

Mo Li: Is this man mentally confused? This person must have problems.
Germany is one of the top 20 countries, in terms of freedom of speech.
China ranks lower than the 140th.
According to such a comparison, would Internet be banned in Germany?
This is very ridiculous. In Germany, only child pornography is prohibited.
Political comments are not prohibited at all.
China is filled with pornography, but comments concerning people’s well-being
or political in nature are all banned.
Germany and China are two extremes.

Jiao Guobiao, ex-associate professor at Peking University’s School of Journalism,
was invited by German PEN organization to visit Germany for one year and a half.
He said the Internet is very accessible.
People can visit websites from around the world.
There is no governmental agency censor or monitor online activities.
The vice mayor of Xiamen was making careless remarks to fool people.

Jiao Guobiao: That is, he was not responsible.
He doesn’t have the truth in mind.
The most fundamental problem is that he humiliates people’s dignity and personality.
He meant, “Yes I did lie, but what can you do with me?
Can you correct me when I am talking? No, you cannot.
I can say what I want to say. “

A video of Zang’s remarks was first posted on Sina.com.
It soon drew netizens’ heavy criticism.
A Chinese immigrant in Berlin, Germany, said,
there is free Internet on the streets in Germany.
The maximum household bandwidth is100 MB.
He spends 19 Euros per month for 32MB of bandwidth.

According to the German newspaper Die Zeit,
according to a 2008 poll, in 10 developed countries,
including Germany, the use of broadband cost about 1% of GDP.
While in China, it accounted for 7.4% of GDP.
China is one of the countries with the highest Internet costs.
China’s Internet costs are 22 times of those in its neighbor South Korea.

Shanghai’s Dragon TV anchor meaningfully warned Zang Jiebin,
“Lying in the information age is really stupid.
Irresponsible remarks are very easy to be refuted by netizens."

NTD reporters Qin Xue and Xiao Yu

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