【禁闻】王岐山“慢慢懂”遭删 百姓懂了

【新唐人2014年08月29日讯】日前,中共中纪委书记王岐山在出席政协常委会议的时侯谈反腐,期间被问及,在前政法委书记周永康后,是否还有更大老虎,王岐山幽默笑答“以后你就慢慢懂”,不过,中国大陆的媒体有关这一消息的报导很快遭到删除。那么究竟有没有更大的老虎呢?从薄熙来倒台一路到周永康落马,中国大陆的民众已经越来越看的“懂”了。

《新华网》、《法制日报》等媒体都在27号报导,王岐山在25号的政协常委第7次会议上,脱稿演讲近70分钟。之后又回答了8名常委的现场提问。

当被问到打完周永康这只“大老虎”后,还有没有更大的老虎时,王岐山笑而不答,再被问到是不是“你懂的”时,他笑着说,“以后你就慢慢懂”。

还有常委问,是否不追究十八大以前的贪污行为。王岐山则回答:“不行”,必须一视同仁,一定要彻查。

这一报导引发中国网民们的跟贴热议 ,但报导很快就在中国媒体上被删除。

《凤凰网》上还出现了一篇相反的报导,引用参加会议的政协常委、复旦大学教授葛剑雄的话说,王岐山没有说过“更大老虎,以后你就慢慢懂”这句话。

但是,从薄熙来一路到周永康,大陆民众已经越来越看的“懂”了。

上海媒体人陈明慧指出,王岐山讲的话,跟周永康落马当天,习近平说的那句“周永康落马不是反腐句号”,是遥相呼应。

上海媒体人陈明慧:“这句话在网上也是《新华社》发出来的,在各大主流网站上都能看得到,也是大概只存活几个小时,可能不超过3、4个小时被删掉了。他们都是‘正国级’的领导说的话都被删掉?为什么呢?很显然,能有资格删的,也是跟他们一个级别的。”

陈明慧分析,很显然,是主管文宣系统的刘云山势力删除的这些消息,说明习李政权和江派的斗争已经到了兵戎相见的地步了。

旅澳原大陆史学教授李元华分析,习、李作为中共最高集权者,他们说的话被删或篡改,有两种情况。

旅澳原大陆史学教授 李元华:“一个是中共在做某种举动的时候,它要故意放一些言论,它要看一看外界对这个反映,它马上它又删除了。但是最有可能的话,还是刘云山。刘云山一直在宣传口并没有服从习近平的指挥,一直在跟习近平掣肘,或跟他唱对台戏。”

海外《阿波罗网》8月初引述日本的NHK电视台政治部记者的推特说,下一个将要被削权的是中宣部及把持中宣部的刘云山。网路上近日也有关于刘云山将要失去权力的一些传闻。

不过近期,刘云山把持的宣传部门仍然时不时呈现“不听话”的状态。

例如,导致香港爆发特大抗议的《“一国两制”白皮书》就被指是江派常委,“港澳工作协调小组”组长的张德江和刘云山双方“合作”的结果。

8月初,大陆媒体刊登习近平“个人生死毁誉无所谓”的反腐言论,也遭全面删除。

李元华:“像刘云山他一直把持着宣传口和习近平作对,应该说他是现在江派在七常委里边,最卖力的一个代言人。他也是一个大贪官,所以他对习近平的反腐一直是持反对态度或者抵制,或者一直在掣肘。习近平要想中共极权政权里面确立自己的绝对的地位,他一定要打下那些不服从自己的人。”

李元华表示,现任常委里面刘云山和前常委曾庆红,以及江泽民,最有可能是习李政权以反腐名义,步步紧逼要拿下的大老虎。

香港《自由亚洲电台》发表资深评论员林保华文章说,中共“红二代”基本达成共识,会支持牺牲江泽民来成全习近平。

记者编辑/李韵 后制/陈建铭

Wang Qishan: You Will Slowly Understand

Secretary Wang Qishan,of the Central Commission
for Discipline Inspection, talked about anti-graft in a
recent meeting with the Standing Committee of the CPPCC
(the Political Consultative Conference).

When asked if there’ll be a bigger tiger than Zhou Yongkang,
the former secretary of Politics and Law Committee,
Wang Qishan smiled and said, “You will slowly understand.”

Mainland’s reports on this news were quickly deleted.

So, are there bigger tigers? From the downfall of Bo Xilai
to Zhou Yongkang, mainlanders seem to “understand" better.

State media such as Xinhua, Legal Daily, and so on, reported
on the 27th, Wang Qishan delivered an impromptu speech
at the 7th meeting of CPPCC Standing Committee and
answered questions from the Committee members.

For the question of any bigger tiger besides Zhou Yongkang,
Wang Qishan said nothing but smiled.

But when he was asked if that means “You understand",
he said with a smile, “You will slowly understand."

He was also asked if the corrupt deeds before the 18th National
Congress will be neglected.

Wang said, “No" and it must be treated the same
with a thorough investigation.

The report triggered enthusiastic forward and discussion
but then was quickly deleted.

The ifeng.com published an opposite report.

Fudan University Professor Ge Jianxiong, also on the CPPCC
Standing Committee, and attended the meeting:
Wang Qishan did not say anything about “The bigger tiger…
you will slowly understand.”

However, from Bo Xilai to Zhou Yongkang,
mainlanders increasingly “understand".

Chen Minghui, a media professional in Shanghai, indicates
what Wang Qishan said actually echoed what Xi Jinping had
said when Zhou Yongkang was sacked:
“Zhou Yongkang’s fall does not bring an end to anti-corruption."

Chen Minghui: “Their words were published by Xinhua News,
and other major mainstream Websites.

But they lasted for just a few hours.
Even the state level leader’s talk can be deleted? Why?

It is very obvious. Only people at the same state level
are qualified to delete it."

Chen Minghui analyzes, it is clearly done by the propaganda
system controlled by Liu Yunshan.

The struggle between the Xi and Li leadership
and the Jiang faction has hit the battleground.

Former History Professor Li Yuanhua analyzes,
that Xi and Li as the highest Communist totalitarian leaders,
their words can be deleted or tampered with,
there are two explanations.

Li Yuanhua: “One, the CCP deliberately released some talks
to find the reactions.
It is soon deleted just to prepare for its next move.

But, the other most plausible explanation is Liu Yunshan.

Liu Yunshan, as the mouth of publicity, has never obeyed
the command of Xi Jinping.
Rather, he has been constrained with Xi Jinping,
or opposing him."

Overseas aboluowang.com reported earlier in August,
Japan’s NHK anticipated Liu Yunshan as the next to be sacked.
Similar rumors were also heard on the Internet recently.

But, the propaganda agency under Liu Yunshan continues
to show its “disobedient" state.

For example, the outbreak of large protests in Hong Kong
over the white paper on One Country Two Systems was said
to be led by collaboration between Liu Yunshan and
Zhang Dejiang.

Zhang Dejiang, a Jiang faction Standing Committee member,
also heads the Hong Kong and Macao Work Coordination Group.

In early August, Xi Jinping’s anti-graft talk of “Care not of
personal life and death, praise or blame" was also fully removed.

Li Yuanhua: “Liu Yunshan has dominated the propaganda
and opposed Xi Jinping.

He is the most hardworking spokesperson for Jiang faction
in seven of the Standing Committees.

Being a big corrupt official, he has been opposing or resisting,
and even constraining the anti-corruption movement of Xi Jinping.

Xi Jinping is determined to secure his absolute power in the
Communist totalitarian regime.

He must defeat those who do not obey."

Li Yuanhua indicates, Liu Yunshan, Zeng Qinghong and
Jiang Zemin are mostly likely the big tigers Xi and Li
will defeat in the name of anti-corruption.

Senior commentator Lin Baohua commented in Hong Kong’s
Radio Free Asia, the Red Two (offspring of the CCP founding
fathers) have basically reached a consensus to support
Xi Jinping at the expense of Jiang Zemin.

Interview & Edit/LiYun Post-Production/Chen jianming

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